So Called Former Borderlines Are Really Full Of Bs

[foreverborderline]

Well duh, that is the intent on my part, the more people I alienate the easier it will be to leave the world.

Funny how it's always someone elses fault isn't it?

nope, it is ALL MY FAULT

[aurorablues]

Foreverborderline,

As your PM box is full, i will put this here for you to read.

FB,

I appreciate that you are hurting and going through a bad time right now, but you have to remember that others are going through similar situations.

The kind of statements that you are making will trigger others. Hence the rule of 'no discussion of current self harm' which you will find here.....

http://www.mentalhealth-world.org.uk/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules

You will find this practice takes place in the real world in group therapy, so it's not just another censorship rule.

If you are wanting to talk about things such as thoughts of harming or suicidal feelings and would like people to help you through it, i suggest you word it carefully in respect to other members and put the post in the 'Dark topics/Crisis' forum. So people have the option whether to look at it, rather than it being shoved in their faces on your status update or in an unrelated thread.

Cheers

Aurora

[foreverborderline]

Foreverborderline,

As your PM box is full, i will put this here for you to read.

FB,

I appreciate that you are hurting and going through a bad time right now, but you have to remember that others are going through similar situations.

The kind of statements that you are making will trigger others. Hence the rule of 'no discussion of current self harm' which you will find here.....

http://www.mentalhealth-world.org.uk/forums/index.php?app=forums&module=extras&section=boardrules

You will find this practice takes place in the real world in group therapy, so it's not just another censorship rule.

If you are wanting to talk about things such as thoughts of harming or suicidal feelings and would like people to help you through it, i suggest you word it carefully in respect to other members and put the post in the 'Dark topics/Crisis' forum. So people have the option whether to look at it, rather than it being shoved in their faces on your status update or in an unrelated thread.

Cheers

Aurora

Aurora, I understand and thanks pointing that out. I was not trying to throw anything in anyone's face, just trying to share my feelings and vent but I did not know it could not be done on topics but thanks for heads up, don't want to trigger anyone.

[Warrior Princess]

I guess when Josh decides I am right then he will lock it.

Locking threads is what is BS most of all as censorship is wrong and not the way to go.. let people share their views and don't lock things up, that is nuts.

I actually think it's time the topic was locked, It's not about censorship though, it's about how much it is hurting YOU ForeverBorderline. Trust me I can see and feel the pain you are going through. When threads are locked on this forum it's to protect people, not censor them. This isn't a healing thing at all and I don't see it ever being resolved. I just see it causing more damage especially to foreverborderline. There are times to speak out and times to let things go. I just feel such a great burden on you at the moment. I believe that letting it go will lift that burden and bring relief so you can breathe again. It doesn't really matter who "wins" this argument... I just feel that if it continues, everyone will lose.

WP

[foreverborderline]

I guess when Josh decides I am right then he will lock it.

Locking threads is what is BS most of all as censorship is wrong and not the way to go.. let people share their views and don't lock things up, that is nuts.

I actually think it's time the topic was locked, It's not about censorship though, it's about how much it is hurting YOU ForeverBorderline. Trust me I can see and feel the pain you are going through. When threads are locked on this forum it's to protect people, not censor them. This isn't a healing thing at all and I don't see it ever being resolved. I just see it causing more damage especially to foreverborderline. There are times to speak out and times to let things go. I just feel such a great burden on you at the moment. I believe that letting it go will lift that burden and bring relief so you can breathe again. It doesn't really matter who "wins" this argument... I just feel that if it continues, everyone will lose.

WP

I think it is censorship but I respect your opinion. It does hurt me but censorship hurts me as well. I am a socialist and against any rules or form of control, and against authority so take censorship seriously but understand why you take this position.

[Narcissa]

that's nihilism more than it is socialism. But i'm not getting into a debate about this. Semantics.

[foreverborderline]

that's nihilism more than it is socialism. But i'm not getting into a debate about this. Semantics.

Was not trying to get into a debate, I said socialism because I think all people should have the same exact amount of money but that is politics and not for here.

[Narcissa]

you're right it's not the place. But i do love a political debate if you're ever up for it.

[foreverborderline]

you're right it's not the place. But i do love a political debate if you're ever up for it.

OK, if I ever am feeling up for it I will let ya know.

[BPDlkeme]

Hi FB, Narcissa,

And me too (up for political debate!)

I'm a bollox with an opinion, so I love any kind of debate!

My best friend has a phrase,

"There's no such thing as an introvert,

only someone with nothing to add to the bloody conversation."

regds,

BPDlkeme

P.S. It was friend who nicknamed me "A bollox with an opinion".

[Warrior Princess]

I guess when Josh decides I am right then he will lock it.

Locking threads is what is BS most of all as censorship is wrong and not the way to go.. let people share their views and don't lock things up, that is nuts.

I actually think it's time the topic was locked, It's not about censorship though, it's about how much it is hurting YOU ForeverBorderline. Trust me I can see and feel the pain you are going through. When threads are locked on this forum it's to protect people, not censor them. This isn't a healing thing at all and I don't see it ever being resolved. I just see it causing more damage especially to foreverborderline. There are times to speak out and times to let things go. I just feel such a great burden on you at the moment. I believe that letting it go will lift that burden and bring relief so you can breathe again. It doesn't really matter who "wins" this argument... I just feel that if it continues, everyone will lose.

WP

I think it is censorship but I respect your opinion. It does hurt me but censorship hurts me as well. I am a socialist and against any rules or form of control, and against authority so take censorship seriously but understand why you take this position.

Hey that's not fair, you're using my own techniques on me! :wacko:

[foreverborderline]

I guess when Josh decides I am right then he will lock it.

Locking threads is what is BS most of all as censorship is wrong and not the way to go.. let people share their views and don't lock things up, that is nuts.

I actually think it's time the topic was locked, It's not about censorship though, it's about how much it is hurting YOU ForeverBorderline. Trust me I can see and feel the pain you are going through. When threads are locked on this forum it's to protect people, not censor them. This isn't a healing thing at all and I don't see it ever being resolved. I just see it causing more damage especially to foreverborderline. There are times to speak out and times to let things go. I just feel such a great burden on you at the moment. I believe that letting it go will lift that burden and bring relief so you can breathe again. It doesn't really matter who "wins" this argument... I just feel that if it continues, everyone will lose.

WP

I think it is censorship but I respect your opinion. It does hurt me but censorship hurts me as well. I am a socialist and against any rules or form of control, and against authority so take censorship seriously but understand why you take this position.

Hey that's not fair, you're using my own techniques on me!

Oops, sorry.

[Warrior Princess]

Don't be sorry, just laugh at me. I was having a little joke with you hun.

WP

[SusieQ]

Well duh, that is the intent on my part, the more people I alienate the easier it will be to leave the world.

Funny how it's always someone elses fault isn't it?

nope, it is ALL MY FAULT

Forever I would like to say I don't understand this feeling, but I do. Alienating people more and more because you want to justify how you feel is something I have done many times. Sometimes it feels like leaving the world is easier than finding another way, but I don't really believe you that you want to alienate people or leave the world. You want people to understand and you feel like they don't, but you will find that underneath all this hot air we are all experiencing similar things.

From looking at this thread I can see that you have a fighting spirit. Ironically you are defending your state of hopelessness very well. This recovery vs management debate is something I can see you feel strongly about. It is your interpretation of your experiences so of course it matters to you. I think the border between passion and aggression is blurred here and people are going to find you offensive because you have a different interpretation of things to most people.

In spite of this I think you know your situation in life can improve. You are a fighter. Put it to good use.

[piuma]

sorry but having an opinion regardless of whether its right or wrong is just that...an opinion....means sod all to do with having BPD.

[piuma]

including you then darling dont forget this is a support site for people with mental health specifically BPD. it would be a bit daft if everyone that came here were all say...i dunno gardeners...

[piuma]

where exactly does it say you cant be? and what exactly do you class as cured?

if someone is living a well rounded life and is content cant they be classed as cured? it doesnt mean they cant slip or go into crisis, where do you get your proof?

[piuma]

doesnt say it does for definite

[piuma]

of course i do, lol thats why im here :D

[BPDlkeme]

Love what they've done with the ceiling here! :rolleyes:

[guntarded]

Love what they've done with the ceiling here!

Favourite line of the topic!!!!

Thank you for making me laugh.

[BPDlkeme]

sarcasm..just another service we offer! :lol:

[RedMan]

including you then darling dont forget this is a support site for people with mental health specifically BPD. it would be a bit daft if everyone that came here were all say...i dunno gardeners...

Hang about are you suggesting gardeners can't have BPD?

Damn I chose the wrong career path

Being slightly more serious, yes a lot of the responses on here show that people have problems (including me). It can be cured/it can't be cured, what is cured? Go back in time BPD didn't exist as a condition, does that mean no one had it? With medical advances who knows what is possible, maybe a cure does exist but hitting that status is hard.

[piuma]

lol @redman, haha of course gardeners are welcome hehe,

anytips on removing weeds?

[roxy222]

Cute thought except a cure doesn't exist for brain damage yet. Not naming something doesn't mean it isn't there. Most of us 100 years ago would have been hung or put in prison now we are given the benefit of the doubt sometimes due to a more liberal society.

thats not necessarily true, people who suffer brain damage as a result of strokes can sometimes learn to rewire their brains with help of ots etc there is some hope that this is also possible with mh etc, although vastly limited research

child abuse or deprivation means that brains develope wrongly, the areas that deal with reactions and the limbic system are much larger in those who have suffered as children, and the areas that deal with emotions and cognitaive function are smaller. those who suffer as children have a much greater risk of developmental disorders, which is where ceratin areas of the brain do not dveelope adaquately, those who have been abused will allways have much higher levels of cortisol than average. so far there seems to be no evidence to suggest that these issues can change, but there is evidence to suggest that other areas of the brain can helped to be developed, as brain developement is usage dependant, and so this can help develope lost skills in other areas of the brain.

im surprised adhd is in the same axis as what are considered illnesses, adhd is a developemental disorder and one that is now believed to be a direct result of truama pre birth, during birth, or shortly there after, so really ist the condition that most resembles brain damage (and i have it so its easy for me to say that) (see bruce perry, edmund songa burke, alan shore for evidence if confused)