RunnyWabbit Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 From what I understand of psychosis, it means that you are not in reality. "Psychotic disorders include severe mental disorders which are characterized by extreme impairment of a person's ability to think clearly, respond emotionally, communicate effectively, understand reality, and behave appropriately. Psychotic symptoms interfere with a person’s daily functioning and can be quite debilitating. Psychotic symptoms include delusions and hallucinations." I am sure they come in varying degrees and arent limited to just that. They say if you are suicidal you can be psychotic. Anyone have any ideas? :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betsy Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 well from what i read in your post you are asking if you are suicidal does that mean you are also psychotic. I don't think it says that i think if says that you CAN be suicidal and psychotic... not that all suicidal ppl are also psychotic? just my oppion.. bets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunnyWabbit Posted December 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 they can be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Betsy Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 yes........ can be but don't have to be. i agree... maybe i am missing the point... lol... wouldnt that be just like me! bets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunnyWabbit Posted December 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 No Betsy ya dont have to be psychotic to be suicidal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 perhaps it depends on the doc making the diagnosis view of life???? That if he/she believes that Not Wanting To Live is seriously a wrong and crazed view "Everyone should want to live, life is great! Anyone who wants to die is out of touch with reality. The reality is that to be alive is wonderful." In their view, to be suicidical is to be psychotic---ie out of touch of (their) reality.??????? How deep is that for 7.20 am???? lorna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calyps Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 It occurs to me- what if those who are termed 'psychotic' are really just more aware of the evil in the world- if someone is so intent on not living anymore I think 'what do they know? What information could they have possibly received that makes them feel this way?' And when it is me, I think 'the world is crap, I don't want to live in it anymore. Surely if you break it down you can twist anything someone says that doesn't agree with what you think into them being psychotic. Lorna's right, it's too early for this depth, I gotta get out! Anwen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostsoul Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 wikipedia is a great online encyclopedia that is free to access and has loads of great information about mental illness. www.wikipedia.com. there is a page about a guy named Thomas Szasz (which can be found by searching for psychosis, and then scrolling down the psychosis page for his name)who had some interesting points to make about how society and psychiatry treats and evaluates psychosis. have a read i think he is a pretty alright guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I have a dx of psychosis nos its in my file because of paranoia. I would think I was being watched, people could read my mind, etc. BUT I knew at the same time these thoughts were not rational, I knew they weren't true. I never lost touch with reality. Hoping it stays that way. I'm not on an anti psychotic at this time. My paranoia is driven by stress, which leads to anxiety/panic. My GAD has calmed so much that my paranoia is rarely a problem anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunnyWabbit Posted December 16, 2004 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Lorna, go back to bed babe! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0noxide Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 i'm on anti psychotics (geodon & seroquel). i'm on them for.. hallucinations, paranoia, disorganization, dissociation, mood swings, etc. etc. psychosis means not in touch with reality, as you already know. so.. yeah. hope that helped. [= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 Psychosis is a severe mental condition characterized by a loss of contact with reality. There are numerous potential causes: alcohol and certain drugs can induce psychosis bipolar disorder (manic depression) brain tumors epilepsy psychotic depression schizophrenia dementia (Alzheimer's and other degenerative brain disorders) stroke Plus others Symptoms loss of touch with reality seeing, hearing, feeling, or otherwise perceiving things that are not there (hallucinations) disorganized thought and/or speech emotion is exhibited in an abnormal manner extreme excitement (mania) confusion depression and sometimes suicidal thoughts unfounded fear/suspicion mistaken perceptions (illusions) false beliefs (delusions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amy Posted December 16, 2004 Report Share Posted December 16, 2004 I just read further about psychosis, and even psychosis nos (my dx). I really didn't lose touch with reality. She (my pdoc) asked me if I knew it wasn't rational that people were reading my mind. I told her I knew it wasn't rational. My therapist let me read my file though, I know the dx is in it. Why would I have the dx if I didn't lose touch with reality. So by thinking that, and the other things mean I did? I have more reading to do. Well just ignore any replies I have given on this thread because I am confused now, sorry I couldn't help. Amy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katherine Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Wabbit, ok!!!! yep, but I couldn't go back to bed-----had to leave for work at 8!!!! I didn't get up til 9.15 today tho!!!!! Seriously, tho, it relates to my recent personal reflections...how sad it is that it became 'normal' to me to wish that I wasn't alive....when the doc asked me on wed. if I'd had any suicidal ideas or thoughts, I said "No more than usual." eh. I remember Szaz, lostsoul, in the dim distant past of my a level sociolocy days back in 86/87/88!!!!! And when I was at Uni my frind and I used to sit in the Grammar lectures and write notes to each other about stereotypes of insanity...we were radical, man! Up the revolution! lorna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostsoul Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hey hey! B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMacbeth Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 :huh: Morning lost! Hey hey! <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacinta Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Hey Wabbit, I haven't read the other posts but there are varying viewpoints on psychosis. Some people believe that psychosis is a spiritual emergency that is the psyche's way of healing. I, myself do not subscribe to that theory. I am more comfortable within the realms of psychiatry with that one, that psychosis is a physical illness. These are just two perspectives of an array of different theories. I hope that you have had many views and will form the opinion that feels right for you. Much love to you Wabbit, Jacinta :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexa Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 Phychosis can lead to suicidalness (is that even a word? ) I think so anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lauren Posted December 17, 2004 Report Share Posted December 17, 2004 It can pounky but then so can the death of your mother or something. Just because you suffer from some kind of psychosis it doesnt mean allways that you will do smething that isnt in your core nature. So if you would not normaly make an attempt on your life the chances are that you wouldnt whilest in a psychotic state. (there is of course exeptions. But right now im lacking in concentration to go into detail ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinklady66 Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 I'm on a anti-psychotic medication called Zyprexa. It's not that I am psychotic. I don't loose touch with reality. The reason I am on the meds is to control my mood swings and to try and make me not have the urge to take my own life. That's what my doctor told me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianna Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Im on Abilify for the same reasons. When I did halluncinate once my psych said it was a side effect from the anti P. :huh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisdom Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 I am familiar with psychosis. 6 months ago I was on 1200mgs/day of Seroquel. It was supposed to keep the "crazies" away. Clearly when manic I was psychotic.it didn't help much. rather than have the dose increased to 1500mgs/day I began decresing it. Now I'm starting Lithium. I am very familiiar with psychotic thinking/behaviors well.........it is and can be debilitating. It really SUCKS. Wisdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lille_eskimit Posted January 11, 2005 Report Share Posted January 11, 2005 Would paranoia be classed as delusional behaviour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisdom Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Yes, paranoia is considered to be a delusion. A delusions are distortions of reality. and paranoia it part of that system. Wisdom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyMacbeth Posted January 13, 2005 Report Share Posted January 13, 2005 Thats realy interesting Wisom I never thought about that before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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