AlextheDJ Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Ok, well there is one thing I have noticed as my depression built up, and that is that music can effect me so much more than it ever used to. I have always loved music and before I got medication, and was in my hole I used to escape to a family beach bungalow and let the music run my emotions. It stopped me feeling suicidal (which I would have been) and I just completely absorbed myself in the song. Since, I have such a new found love for certain songs and the ones I listened to while in my hole really make me feel euphoric, if listened to at the right time. I write music as well, and since coming out of my hole the songs have been the best I have ever written. Not to mention depression gives me something to write about lyric wise.Anyway was just wondering if anyone else has had anything similar, and i'm on a bit of a high today, moodswing wise...Any thoughts?xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InnerPeace Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Hi Alex. music has a big effect on my mood too...I have to watch how I'm driving when I'm listening to it too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marchmadness Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Hey -Music can really help you get through some rough times. It does have animpact to how I feel. I love to listen to it alone, driving in the car it like anescape for me. Good to see that you are able to write also. It helps putthings into prospective, a release. Hope things continue like that for you.March Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eve-naive Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 That's really lovely Alex!! A happy thread! I just thought about what I used to do with my son when he was smaller. He used to have night terrors about the age of 6/7 and was a very negative little boy. We used to play the blessings game before bed, where we had to think of ten things we had been blessed with that day. Even really tiny things - it could get silly, but silliness helps lol. Everything from the sun shining to having ice-cream for dessert. Maybe I should try it for myself?? Hope you all have a good night, thinking of you.Love eve-naive xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crackers Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Woo hoo, happy thread!Yeah, music has a massive bearing on my life, playing it also (i play in a brass band), and since the onset of my depression songs have become more personal, and more meaningful and can help to lift me out of it. Plus, the sense of happiness and content i get from sitting in the middle of a massive band make me feel all warm inside! Even if im not a very good musician Love Rach xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlextheDJ Posted October 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2008 Lol, i'm glad other people can relate, if I can be grateful about anything with depression its how much more intense music can be...I made two startling discoveries today...One was that i have written a full album since being put on medication one to two months ago (the last album took me six months).Then I replaced all the songs I had written on my walkman phone with the new ones. The sony ericsson software analyses the music when you transfer it (very fancy) and gives you a graph which shows whether the song is happy or sad, fast or slow. To my surprise they were mostly happy, whereas before they were all sad (I even called one song my happy song cos it was rare to write one)...I'm enjoying being on a bit of a high the last two days - my dad thinks i'm bipolar, but i'm not sure... None of my GP/councillors have said anything...But it is good to see that people can talk about good times as well as getting support when they are low here...I dont know the aim of this post anymore, i'm kinda rambling, its late, I apologise...Sleep tight everyone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mavis Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Alex,Loving the happy idea.I love music too find it really grounding, I love the different types of music.Keep up the writing - well done on albummavis x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlextheDJ Posted October 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Okay, have an excellent addition to the happy thread...I have just spent all day designing, printing, cutting, sticking, writing and...Well anyway the end result is a bunch of promo cd's that I have sent off to a selection of record companies...By giving myself an impossible goal, I have been lifted out of my depressive hole, and, given the unlikelyness of a record company actually liking the demo I don't need to be dissapointed if I fail.I can hope though, Feet on the ground, but head in the clouds!I'll keep you posted!Alex xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 Whay hayyyyy a happy topic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! in fact i may awell change my writing fonts ! I note alextheDJ u suffer from DSPS (delayed sleep phaze syndrom) aswell? i dont get 2 sleep till 5 or 6am these days! some people say im lazy ect coz i dont get up sometimes till miday but i just cant help what time i go 2 sleep its been like this for years! How does it affect u? Have u tried melatonin the sleep hormone 2 try and correct it? mind u its up2 ones self as 2 what time we get 2 sleep! But i think that music can have a very dramatic + very great affect on ones mood!I listen 2 morrissey + morrissey only! (well ok i somtimes listen 2 the sex psitols now n then aswell! ) but a lot of people seem 2 think his music + lyrics are depressing! in actuall fact his stuff is very very enlightening + uplifting!!! By FAR the best writer/ lyrisist in my book! + his music makes me VERY VERY HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As also stated tho making music urself is very theraputic in itself! music therapy is brillo !!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 And whats happened 2 my edit function!!! its gone again soes i cant edit anything!!!! But was gunna add that i also use a few glasses of wine 2 help me get 2 sleep. it works pretty well but unfortunatley it does have its down side! u find urself needing more of the stuff 2 get the same sedative affects!!! im back 2 a bottle of wine per night! not a good thing! I cant take sleeping medications coz of a few heart problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlextheDJ Posted October 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Yeah Steven, melatonin is the boi! Its almost as if i dont suffer dsps anymore, although my gp at the moment is unwilling to perscribe them...I'm also a cannabis user, as I find that with the GP not perscribing my melatonin, or any sensible amount of valium it's the only thing i can readily get a hold of (ironically) to counter the depression ans insomnia.I'm not sure what effects it has on my depression overall, there are studies that show that it can make it worse, but there are also studies to say the opposite, and it is even perscribed for it in some countries. Plus my SSRI's abd valium both say they can cause depression as one of the side effects. However, as GP's are so unwilling to perscribe the medication at the time it's needed is there any wonder so many people self medicate. Almost everyone I know with depression/Insomnia has turned to either alcohol cannabis or harder drugs to help cope at difficult times.Alcohol however (at least I find) knocks me out, but doesn't allow me to sleep. I havn't heard much Morrisey, but I know that music generally has major chords for happy and minor chords for sad. However some of the most euphorically happy songs use minor chords, Samuel Barber's Adagio for strings is both the saddest and happiest piece of mosic I have ever heard, maybe it is the same with Morrisey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 music is the savior of my life. it carries meaning for every single aspect of my life.it comforts me when i am low, it keeps me company when i feel alone, gives me reasons to feel joy, and can represent every feeling i ever have and ever will have.i can listen to rock, metal etc when i am angry or downgoth when i am down or aloneprog rock when i feel nostalgicebm/industrial/darkwave....well that can cover every spectrum, it is imo the best music in existence.i write lyrics and have just started writing music on my new synthesizer, making music is my life.it sounds melodramatic but music really has saved my life so many times. it is my life, no words i can write can express the meaning that it has to me.xxxedit: just looked into DSPS and omg it is me down to a tee, am gonna mention it to gp, i even took a job starting in the afternoon cos i couldnt cope with morning. i go to bed around 4/5am and get up at 11.30/12 to go to work now. thanks for it being brought up :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlextheDJ Posted October 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 Whatever you do, when you go to your GP don't say you have DSPS, as he won't know what it means anyway and the treatment - Melatonin is a thorny issue with GP's... Say you are having troubles sleeping and ask to be refered to sleep specialist (mine was in Middlesbrough) They should put you on an actiwatch which should confirm or rule out DSPS, and they will pressure the GP to perscribe melatonin. GP will probably give you some bull about addiction and liver problems. It is a very benign drug - the only possible adverse effect is a possible link with cancer in long term, but I would be willing to bet that most of my medication has links to cancer and medicine is advancing so fast... Plus melatonin has been shown to prevent cancer as well.........Anyway if all else fails it can be ordered from the internet completley legally from the US, and it is cheaper for a years supply than for one months perscription charge here in the UK. You can find it in health food shops.Melatonin has turned my DSPS on its head, and I highly recconmend it, without it my depression would have manifested itself much sooner and much worse.Hope this helps and good luck!!Alxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 thanks for the advice, am gonna look a little more into it and maybe look in the local health food shopsxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlextheDJ Posted October 19, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 cool, check it out...But you won't find it over the counter in england... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rael Posted October 19, 2008 Report Share Posted October 19, 2008 damn, i have a few health sites bookmarked that do US stuff so will look.just to self publicize a bit (ah how i love modesty) i have some new lyrics in the creative section, its one of the ones im going to be working on the music to very shortly)xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miko Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 From old notes my enthusiastic new GP knows I could 'bite people's heads off' in the dim & distant past and has quickly found I march in with my latest 'bright idea' which this time based on my nerve pain (especially but not solely surrounding noise), absence spells which I worked out (figured out) I have been having for the last 50 years plus my newly announced mood swings, was to ask for gabapentin, and fortunately I was able to get them straight away.Immediately the world has slowed down and backed off and is quieter. Real emotions are more distant but far more authentic (sadnesses as well as happy things). Within minutes of my first dose someone I met said I had a sparkle in my eye. I don't feel especially cheerful, rather mixed, but not in a loud frantic way. It seems to fend off a lot of stuff and just make room for me to be me, which I last was a long time ago.I don't know if that is of help ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgreen Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 hello all,Yes, music is a great tool to use; but sometimes it has worked against me as well. Like if I am depressed and sad, then play into that with sad music or lyrics that remind me of the issue----I stay stuck in that mood. You know if love goes awry, and you play love songs--------it may keep you down and under.The flip side is to play more upbeat or positive tunes, but you may have to fight with yourself to put them on instead.By the way, what kind of songs/lyrics do you write----like to see some? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlextheDJ Posted October 22, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 I find quite the opposite, love goes awry, I play depressing songs and I work that feeling out of my system, and can very often switch from depressing songs to upbeat songs. Music *really* taps in to my mood at the moment and I can use it to affect it however I want (to a limited extent)I write electronic music (because I use a midi keyboard) but it's difficult to define, I take influence from dance (breakbeat) reggae blues rock, although whether any of these influences come out in my music I don't know... I try to write lyrics, but that requires the more academic side which i'm not so hot on at the minute, whereas the music I write takes the form purely of a creative outburst without fully concious thinking. I amaze myself how when i'm in the right mindset I can write a quality tune in 20 minutes. In contrast, at other times I can struggle for hours and scrap a song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven Posted October 22, 2008 Report Share Posted October 22, 2008 What do ya mean never heard of morrisey!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! U must of at the very least heard of the smiths ? well he was the lead singer! !!!!!But well yes i agrea meletonin is good stuff, ive been perscribed it in the past by me Dr aswell but unforutnalty it can have a downside it can lower ur mood somtimes1 im not sure which$ pathway it travellls along ect but i think it may well compete with serotonin ! But i had trouble being perscribed it awell at first, in fact the chemist wanted 89 pounds! from me for just 28 tablets!!! so i went back 2 my Dr and she gave me a diffent perscription slip and so i got my meletonin for free!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! obviously meletonin is quite exspensive stuff 2 prescirbe!!! But music has been a big part of my life aswell , i listen 2 music every single night whilst i enduldge in the hobby which i do all the time in fact ive become addicted 2 it but its ok coz ive become completltley brilliant at it LOL ( its a surpise tho !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Keep up the good theraputic work with ur music making brain storms of creativity alexthedj and 2 anyone else inclined + also everyone else keep listening 2 ur music which will help keep u all sane in an insane world!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlextheDJ Posted October 23, 2008 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2008 Lol, I havn't heard any morrisey, but of course I have heard of him!And having just wikipedia'd the smiths (I love the 80's manchestester music scene) I found that Johnny mar worked with bernard summer (new order) and neil tennant (pet shop boys) in a supergroup called electronic. That is definately worth checking out, I love PSB & N.O. and definately need education with regards to the smiths...Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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