walker Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 i know this is a dull topic for this place and i know no one can help but my anxiety is going through the roof i have even joind an anxiety forum - but reading anything on there is making me ten times worse i feel like my whole life is going to end in one great terrifying panic my head is full of hundreds of scenarious - it keeps telling me all the times i might have to be somewhere i feel i cant get out of - it is terrifying me my whole body is siezing up i KNOW its my mind doing this but i cant stop crying and hub just does not hav a clue he makes things worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roses Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 ((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Walker))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detroitguy Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Walker - I feel concern for what you are going through. Has anything changed recently in your life such as your medication that may be causing the extra anxiety? I have recently had a dosage reduction in my antipsychotic medication and I have been having some extra anxiety due to withdrawl. Just a thought. Take care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 Relaxing can be difficult for many people, but it is something you can learn. There are certainly plenty of free relaxation mp3s online, or even better if you have a piece of music that you know helps you relax it can help you no end. I find enya to be particularly soothing. The fact that it is in your mind, as you know, offers us another way to reduce your anxiety: by distracting your mind with other tasks. Crosswords and sudoku and other similar mental challenges which are not stressful for you are a great way to engrosse your mind. It can keep you so occupied that you can find yourself lifting your head from the task and realising an hour has passed without any stress or worry. Also something which works well is light exercise; like going for a walk up the street. I find hiking trips are a great way to expend energy which will otherwise just build up inside you. These are just some of many possible ways out there to help you and it might not be that you notice a difference straight away, it may take some time, but as you focus your mind on positive experiences you can begin to notice that you are improving already. I hope this can be of some help to you. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 ty for replying i have refused meds since coming off venlafaxine in 2008, but i do now take diazepam and propranolol when things are bad i think my mh probs seem to manifest themselves in dif ways at dif times sometimes its the blackest depression atm it is intense anxiety ys i play sudoku compulsively and solitaire, and watch films and play piano, and walk the dog when there are no gales !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my daughter gets terribly stressed - and her main coping mechanism seems to be offloading onto me i am always there for her but it triggers me badly and i think this is certainly making things worse atm that and being too damn pathetic to make the major changes to my life that i know i should am just about managing to tell the thoughts in my head to shut up and leave me alone - but it is exhausting as they are intruding endlessly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pink stars Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (((((((walker))))))) x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jades Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 sorry your in such a state hugs xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanctuary Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 (((((((((Walker)))))))))) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 that and being too damn pathetic to make the major changes to my life that i know i should am just about managing to tell the thoughts in my head to shut up and leave me alone - but it is exhausting as they are intruding endlessly You shouldn't be so self depricating, no wonder you're having a hard time at the moment. Anyone would if they were saying things like that to themselves. The negative voice inside your head is a habit you have gotten into. The problem is habits make us feel secure and comfortable, they release endorphins in the brain. The reasoning goes like this. You have survived up until now, so your brain assumes that the behaviours you are engaging in are obviously working to keep you alive. The behviours that you perform more often, like the negative inner voice, are incorrectly assessed to be the most useful and important to your survival. As such your brain wants to keep these behaviours, these habits and to do so it releases endorphins. While a negative inner voice is a horrible thing to have, it helps you feel secure and safe. Things said against your negative inner beliefs likely seem wrong, or make you feel angry to think about. My guess is that someone in your childhood was particularly hard on you, but they were someone quite important to you. As close emotional attachements when you are a child alway are, this represented some form of safety from the outside world. But when they were not around being critical of you, you would mimic that behaviour inwardly to remind you of that feeling of safety. A negative inner voice is often the result of an overly critical parent, or one who in some way or another makes you feel as if you are not living up to expectations. To think negatively of yourself is a habit like any other, from smoking to picking your nose to the way you wash the dishes. We become in some way addicted to our habits, because they are woking to keep us alive. Unfortunately like a phobia of birds or spiders this is an irrational judgement of our brain. Most importantly though, like any other habit you can train yourself out of it. I know it is difficult. I know it will take time, but you can do it. You need to change the content or structure of your thoughts. Would your negative inner voice be quite so debilitating if it were the voice of goofy, or mickey mouse? Next time you have a negative thought about yourself you can ask yourself, 'who is saying that? whose voice is that?' and you can also change that voice. Repeat it in a stupid or rediculous sounding voice and allow yourself to laugh at how silly it now sounds. NLP practitioners claim that this can reduce the emotional impact of the statement. Further more you can try affirmations, and one of my favourites 'the three gifts.' Affirmations are postive statements about yourself stated in the positive. Such as "I am a wonderful person." As opposed to "don't feel bad." In order to understand the latter you must feel a little bad for it to make sense, so avoid those kinds of negatives. (Don't think of a tree.....what are you thinking of?) Three gifts is an excellent way to help you feel good. At teh end of every day, when your in bed ready to go to sleep just think to yourself. What are three good things that I have done for myself today? - "I played the piano. I cleared up the living room, which made me feel good".....etc and then thank yourself for doing those things. Literally thank yourself inside your head. The more you do this, the more it will become a habit of thought. You will find these habits beginning to replace the old negative ones. Over time this will build up until you won't even recognise or understand why you had been saying those negative phrases in the past. You will look back on those thoughts and realise how much you are improving. I hope this can help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 who are you? ed. sorry just panicked - i get scared when new people who dont know me write loads i see sense in much of what you say and im sorry if my reply offended you am feeling very alone in all of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 who are you? ed. sorry just panicked - i get scared when new people who dont know me write loads i see sense in much of what you say and im sorry if my reply offended you am feeling very alone in all of this no worries, i don't get offended easily i just joined recently looking for some advice and thought i might be able to offer some advice to other people in return. i've had a history of clinical depression, a few anxiety attacks which i was in a particularly bad place, and i'm an nlp practitioner, i'm getting a diploma in cognitive hypnotherapy and i've been studying psychology in my own time for the past five years or so. so i thought i might be able to give some useful advice cheers saul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 ty your advice is v welcome i am going to resort to wine now even tho i dont drink normally wont need much with a bit of diaz in system i dont feel well feels like my head is totally betraying me and i am feeling v hopeless and lost right now i want the world to stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saul Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 you'll get through it be strong just remember, nothing worth doing is easy it will take effort on your part to get through this, but the rewards are life changing just imagine what it would be like in the future to be happy and healthy and all the wonderful things that will allow you to experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan Posted November 14, 2009 Report Share Posted November 14, 2009 oooo sorry to interrupt but ima love nlp... ima pm u tho saul... save hijacking here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 worse been for monts nad montsh trying to ground cnat swithc headdoff no oen to carre nooooo one to know alone millions of poepls and im alone only doggggg knows cos he sees me up but in my head storm ragign and life willlll need to end cos it cantno stay liek this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 hey walker.... did u manage to get any sleep / rest... ((((((((((((((walker))))))))))))))) hope so, and hope that maybe things are a lil better today... Love you Kath xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 ty hmmm someone text me at 1.50 am and that was it - was terrified it was one of the kids - which it wasnt - then was up head raging till 6 got a couple of hours then had to go out i was so despt hoping today would feel better but it doesnt - it is worse if anything and people here just seem to avoid me atm or at least that is how its feeling so sorry if it isnt true my heads saying all sorts i will have to see doc trmo cos this is imobilising me - i really think this is it this time i think i am going mad and i will not find a way back god help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Villan Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 well... i for 1 aint avoidin u... and now things are better wit me, ima back more on forum for others again... ((((((((((((walker))))))))))) jus a thought, dunno if i told u before, sorry if i have, but i use hypnotherapy cd's and they helped me loads... ima recommend one guy to you... glenn harrold... if u google him, and go onto his publishers web... i think is called... o hang on ima get link... http://www.hypnosisaudio.com/ there u can listen to a few samples of his stuff... v important that u like his voice and tone etc... may not be your kinda thing, but hey, cant hurt to have a lookie... don't order off web site tho - if u look at amazon or play they sometimes have them on offer... cheaper i use "deep sleep every night" pretty regularly and i have about 6 others that i dip into from time to time... love to you... Kath xx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 to the few people who tried to help me - thankyou thankyou also to gingernut for taking the time and trouble to hear me out i am just about managing to silence the thoughts but they are still coming thick and fast perhaps i should hav put this in crisis - as i hav not felt so ill in many weeks but then again what does it matter sorry my pain is not exciting or controversial - i will continue to live in my own hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daisy duck Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 how you are feeling does matter walker...i'm sorry you are having a bad time of it. i know your stronger than you think you are,hopefully with time things will get a bit easier. xxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jades Posted November 15, 2009 Report Share Posted November 15, 2009 im still here for u thinking of u xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx :wub: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
banana07 Posted November 16, 2009 Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 I just became aware of the fact I might just be somebody that has borderline. Anxiety is in my mind a lot of times as well. I just dont know how to react to all these feelings at once. My girl just told me I have to leave 'cause she has her own to think of which I do understand. She helped me heaps by getting concious & aware about my behaviour. What is it exactly to have borderline? I am trying to understand this question. Watched a couple of youtube films that described it. I broke down in tears 'cause in many ways I recognized myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walker Posted November 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2009 managed to tell hub some of the mess head is in - he seems to have sort of heard although he says its crazy!! he says its like the stuff i have said before about my head telling me things - i guess it is its just different things - this time causing anxiety over self hatred but sort of all rolled up into one hmmmm crazy, yes (banana07 - there is lots of info on borderline pd in a different part of the forum - 'personality disorders') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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