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Hello, I'm Paige!

I've joined this forum to gain more insight into different aspects of mental health!

I was wondering if theres any books you could recommend for me to read to do with psychology/ mental health/ both. :L

I want to gain insight into ALL aspects, so any recommendations are great!

Paige x

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Hiya, welcome to the site :) we're all a great bunch here and I'm sure you'll love it :)

if you ever feel like chatting feel free to pm me,

David

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Hi Paige, welcome to the site

there are ppl here with all kinds of mental health problems and they are all really lovely too. You can learn a lot just from reading the site but if you do have any questions, you can always start a thread and see what answers you get. probably not everyone will want to answer as it is a personal subject and its really hard putting things into words but i'm happy to help if i can :)

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Hi

welcome to the site.

I think this site will be good for your questions,

its difficult to understand Mental health from books as each of us is so complex and different and even two people with the same condition are so very different and have different triggers etc.

I hope people are able to answer your questions

regards

Rob

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We aren't test subjects, dear.

This is a site for people with problems. Not for you to gain information for your career.

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Hi there

I think its great you are looking into this, especially early! In terms of books, it depends what you want to do when you are qualified. If you are sure you want to treat people and help people, then specific books on specific therapies are going to be helpful, but also ones that cover a broad basis of core psychology. For the latter, your best bet will be to look up reading lists for A-level and University Psychology courses. Maybe pop into Waterstones or somewhere and have a look in the psychology section, and leaf through.

In terms of therapies, I am not sure how they teach it at uni but it may be helpful to learn about the history of psychotherapy and the theories that have underpinned them. There's lots of important names out there, such as Freud, Jung, Kohut, BF Skinner, Stanley Milgram, Carl Rogers, Aaron Beck, Marsha Linehan and so on. There are many types of therapy, such as gestalt, psychodynamic, psychoanalytic, CBT, DBT, Schema, Client Centred, Shadow Working, Acceptance and Commitment, Cognitive Analytic etc etc. You may also want to begin to read about Psychiatry, which is a different beast to psychology, though as a practicing clinical psychologist you will work a lot with them. Maybe look up a bit about the history and roots of psychiatry, beginning with a guy called Emil Kraepelin. As bobulator said, everyone is different and often its difficult to fit a person to any one theory or approach, so flexibility and the ability to 'see the person' is important, as well as lots of knowledge from lots of areas.

I would say if you can, find out some contact details of people who work as clinical psychologists in your local health service, and see if you can write to them and ask how they got into the field. For most it will be the right a-levels (or equivalents) and then degree and maybe PhD, with some form of time spent in real world practice before getting qualified. Then you may have to train in a specific therapy and become certificated in that type.

Nice to hear you are so enthusiastic! Clinical Psychologists, counsellors and therapists in general are very important for folks suffering mental illness and its nice to see people wanting to help :)

Ross

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Hey paige, I just wanted to say hi and welcome, I think its fine for you to gain insight and maybe help support people, just be aware though that you cannot use this sight to experiment, research or anything like that.

keep to them rules and you should be ok.

good luck with your studies xx

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We aren't test subjects, dear.

This is a site for people with problems. Not for you to gain information for your career.

thanks. i feel the same but wasn't sure how to phrase it calmly.

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give the girl a break for christs sake, shes 17 I'm pretty sure when she wrote that thread it wasnt intended with malice or to make anyone feel like a " test" or whatever.

She obviously is very interested in this subject and wants to pursue it, and is just asking for advice and a push in the right direction. If you don't personally want to be involved in whats shes asking don't reply to her thread, ignore it instead of attacking her.

Paige I think its great that you have already chosen what career you wish to pursue and I hope you succeed. There are alot of people in the world with MH issues and personally I think more pyscs etc are needed in order to ensure that the people who need help are able to access it quickly thus hopefully resulting in less people feeling like they can't cope or worse.

Yes this is a site for people with problems, and I'm sure If Paige had of known she was going to cause such a stir she would have thought differently about posting. But now she has, can we all just lay off her , her reasons for posting are genuine and she obviously wants first hand advice. I would have thought that there would be people out there willing to help her get where she needs, because someday she may be a big help to someone who is suffering just as much as you are.

my little sister is similiar in age to Paige and if im honest I could see her posting something like this, she's trying give her a break. xxx

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pandora hun, she is a student here to get insight not use us as guinepigs , she has not broken any rules, she isnt not advertising, she is just here as others have been and not caused any harm. i think she should be given a chance. she is only 17.

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She would be better off talking to tutors where they can recommend books and places to contact. We are not trained. What possible help can we bring if we aren't psychologists ourselves.

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i think we are the best people to talk to though - my psychotherapist once said to me 'but louise, you are the expert, not me. only you know what goes on in your head only u know how u feel'. and too often i have heard (and i am guilty of this also!) people say that doctors, therapists, social workers etc 'dont know shit, they just read a few books'. i always agree to medical students sitting in because how else to learn and how better to learn than with the patient?!

just my opinion, took me a long time to reach this point. i just know that if i need more help in the future, i hope the person treating me has had the best training possible and has insight on people, NOT just books :)

welcome to the site paige :) xx

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yeah i certainly know a lot more about this shit than my shithead pshycistarist who nearly made me kill myself cos he was such an insensitive fecker who didn't care one bit.

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I think thats the entire point.

people trained as "professionals" from books and other studies are intelligent but not understanding or empathic to others,

when you get to know people with mental health issues and spend time with them, listen to them and as best as you can learn to walk a mile in their shoes, then you have the understanding to be able to help people properly

after all the point was made that we are not health care professionals, yet this is where we turn to for support and advise? why?

because we are the ones who understand what its like, and what people go through.

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I think thats the entire point.

people trained as "professionals" from books and other studies are intelligent but not understanding or empathic to others,

when you get to know people with mental health issues and spend time with them, listen to them and as best as you can learn to walk a mile in their shoes, then you have the understanding to be able to help people properly

after all the point was made that we are not health care professionals, yet this is where we turn to for support and advise? why?

because we are the ones who understand what its like, and what people go through.

This.

This encapsulates what I wanted to say when I first read this thread, but this topic gets me pretty worked up so it was either close the tab or unleash a rant. The above post is exactly how I feel about the matter in a nutshell.

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  • 2 months later...

Sorry it took me so long to come back on here, I didn't mean to make anybody feel like I was making them a test study. I just want to get to know people so I can understand better so when I'm older and progress I can have a better understanding which in turn will make me a better Psychologist and it will help me help others better. :)

Thank you to the people who stuck up for me in this, I really didn't mean to cause any offence to anybody! :)

Also, thanks for the people who actually replied to what I was asking, it means a lot. :)

Paige

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She would be better off talking to tutors where they can recommend books and places to contact. We are not trained. What possible help can we bring if we aren't psychologists ourselves.

hi, sorry but im gunna be honest with you, psychology teachers don't always specialise in a subject of psychology- they just teach the basics

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Hi Paige,

I think its great that you are looking at the whole issue of MH and not just what people have written or advised, but i can also understand people being suspicious of you posting - personally for me I know you were not trying to offend but i also know some of the terrible experiences people have been through on this site and we should bear this in mind.

Really good book that stood out for me was "Stop walking on eggshells" by Paul Mason and Randi Kreger.

The other one i have read my mum has so will get that title too as really good and post up for you.

My next part of learning is the Dialetical Behaviour Therapy skills workbook as that is what i am starting soon with my counsellor, i am afraid i am a bit of a reader from my Uni days so like to swot up so i know what i am dealing with.

Now that i have come through a particularly bad time i am concentrating on my treatment so that if i go there again i have some better tools to help me recognise and help myself. I am booked in June for a meditation retreat at a buddhist centre for 1 day which i am looking forward too (sorry if it offends anyone but i didn't believe in that crap but am willing to try anything!!!)

I would be happy to help Paige if you have any queries re EUPD and PTSD which is my diagnosis.

Maddie x

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hi,

will try and help where i can on any queston relating to EUPD and depression, had a recent depressive episode.

Annie

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